SIU and Officer Unions

I recently got my Third Mate’s License and am eager to get sea time and pay by any means. Given the state of the industry, it seems (in some ways) beneficial to join the SIU to work as an AB and start working towards my 2nd Mate’s License. I really cannot afford to sit in an MM&P hall for 4-8 months to wait for a job; I am aware of opportunities through MEBA and AMO, but was curious if anyone knew if it is legal or illegal to be part of both the SIU and a Deck Officer’s union. I have been told that it is fine since one caters to unlicensed mariners and the other doesn’t, but I have been told recently that being a member of both will result in getting blacklisted. Can any current union members help me out?



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  • April 24, 2020 at 9:44 am
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    You can be a member of two unions at the same time so long as you don’t work in the same capacity. So you can’t sail as a licensed deck officer through the SIU while a member of the MM&P but you can sail unlicensed through the SIU.

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  • April 24, 2020 at 9:44 am
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    Never volunteer information when talking with either of these unions. You can only sail unlicensed with SIU. They represent only unlicensed mariners, however even if you have license you can still sail as an AB with SIU. This means in order to sail with SIU you will have to pay your dues and initiation fees. I do not believe you will have to do it up front but you will have to pay something.

    Be mindful going up to your nearest hall and just joining with credential and a license you may get some flack. At lease I did, I already had an AB ticket and Tank-ship endorsement, which meant I was ineligible to attend their school in piney point. For every new apprentice they receive the union is given federal money. So you may get some flak however they do need you, despite what they will tell you. Also if you have a tankship PIC will up your chances to catch a ship quickly.

    There are several mariners out their that have their mates ticket and sailing as AB’s with SIU. The perk with this is if you sail as an AB with SIU and get assigned a ship with a company that hires officers directly it is a great way to get a license gig. I have seen this happen. I had a bosun who had a mates license and was working aboard an MSC contracted tanker through a shipping and after his tour was offered a full time 3rd Mates position.

    When you join they will ask you if you are a member of any other union, just say no.

    Best of luck.

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